Aug 072012

Ganked 34: IN THE NAVY MATE, was originally going to roll down the South and South West, however following the events that have become known as “The Mate War“, I changed that and decided to roll us North. A couple of days after this decision was taken, it turned out that NCDOT and others had been found breaking the terms of an agreement they had with other owners of Technetium moons, who had as a result decided to forcibly expel NCDOT from their space; Consequently my decision to go north felt even more justified, as with Goons & the rest of the CFC dog-piling onto NCDOT, Black Legion & Nulli Secunda then the possibility of orgies of boat violencing destruction was too good to pass up.


The chosen theme was Navy & Fleet hulls and we got a very very impressive number of them, out of the 190 pilots that left the Reisen area Id say roughly 120 were in hulls ranging from the Caldari Navy Hookbill to the Republic Fleet Firetail to the Stabber Fleet Issue even as far as a Dominix Navy Issue and a Tempest Fleet Issue. Looked very impressive when I zoomed around the fleet, just annoyed I did not take any screenshots.

After a little travel time and no sightings of anyone, we were just jumping into OEY- in Geminate, when word went out that there was a few NCDOT mates behind us, so I ordered the fleet on to our in gate over in 39- and set up. And waited. And waited.  All the while hearing reports of the NCDOT numbers going up, thinking to myself all the time: “So nice of them to come and see us, without making us schlep all the way to Tribute.”

Turns out they had brought ALL the scimitars to keep their Tengu’s alive:

[ 2012.08.05 17:57:12 ] Nyu Trustan > loool so many scimi’s
[ 2012.08.05 17:57:14 ] Verse Askold > 23 scimis

So out of a 80 man fleet (give or take a few, as I cannot recall the exact figure), around 1/3rd were logistics. And apparently they called that a “lol fleet”, weirdest definition of “lol” that I have heard of, how about you guys?

Anyway, eventually they began jumping in and I called their interdictors right away, however after a couple went down it was apparent that even with our superior numbers, we would not break their scimitar reps and so I started having us BURN ALIGN, BURN ALIGN, BURN ALIGN, BURN ALIGN and warping us to the next gate on our route as soon as I thought it was possible.  We suffered some losses this way, but not as many had we stood our ground and fought. After a few jumps of this, I called another BURN ALIGN and warped the fleet – well the parts that had not warped to the obvious out gate already – to another gate in the same cluster as the out gate marked yellow.

And jumped us through.

Then I had the group of pilots with me leg it. 

I was not sure what happened to the 60+ guys I left behind while I was doing this, but I know the majority got out and met up in FDZ4-A with very minimal losses.  However the fun part was, the NCDOT fleet realised what I had done and came right after my group and the chase was on, would my 80 guys get away before they tired of the chase or would they do us in and be able to claim victory against a drunk fleet?  As it turned out, I got my group all the way back to empire via Great Wildlands before NCDOT gave up and carried on to wherever it was they went.  We had survived a very merry Benny Hill style chase, just with less maid & nurse outfits.

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Eventually my group also ended up back in FDZ4-A, where the other survivors had been camping a gate and also trying to bump a carrier off a station. I soon ended this overt display of boredom and moved us into Vale of the silent, where nothing much happened except a solo NCDOT Tengu & a solo RnK Cynabal, and the small matter of a Charon in space that we had probers rushing from highsec to find but  to our shame they were too late. It logged before they arrived. 

Following this little diversion, we moved into Tribute, killed a few more ships belonging to NCDOT (Bad bubblers are bad), and an Intrepid Crossing Viator that did not cloak or warp before Kaeda got a point on it (Yes he fit one for this roam!), the pilot of which offered us ISK:

[ 2012.08.05 21:03:56 ] Mourning Souls > “[21:03:38] Taidel > i’ll pay”

However he died before we could even discuss negotiating with him amongst ourselves. His pod was juicy.

We wandered around a little, heard of a Black Legion rokh fleet in 0-Y, Wiiggls heroically tried to get us a warp in, but being hammered didnt do it and died for his trouble. Then Lorkin got us one, so we jumped in, landed on them, tried to down something before their reps landed, failed and ran away again losing a few more ships in the process. As we jumped out of 0-Y we found ANOTHER fleet – this time the CFC & PL, a happy few made it past them only to run into NCDOT this time in Abaddons and armour logistics…  Then suddenly we were in EC-P8R and it was the end of the roam, plenty of us survived and got out into high sec space, including Arciteck who had been rolling the whole night in a full HG Slave set!

All in all, a very random night, not many kills, but isk wise better than some other Ganked roams. I know most of the fleet enjoyed themselves especially when we were being chased by NCDOT in their Tengu fleet. but and I mean it this time, SCREW THE NORTH.


I’m taking my ball and not going back there again.


As ever our glorious sponsors at Somer.Blink provided several prizes for this roam:

Scouting Distinction – Buzzard+Launcher+Probes x3 (Kaeda Maxwell,  Roigon, Brutus Aniofka)

Corpse Collector – Sabre (Solarienne)

Spot Prizes – Federation Navy Comet x10 (tgl3, Brain Gremlin, Shaid Rulfsson, Lorkin Desal, Patrick Kasper, Belkadan, D4RK 0NE, Qestroy, Vora Dumem, Federal Criminal)

Combat Distinction – Caracal Navy Issue x5 (Arciteck, Sens1, Shish Tukay, Phantom OfKrankor, Dobriy)

Combat Excellence – Navy Apocalypse x1 (Tribal Solidarity)

Heretic – Cruor x1 (Jiny)

Jul 312012

Of all the reasons to go to war, would you have ever guessed that the word “Mate” was one of them?


Neither would we in RvB.

However, as it turns out, this is a perfectly acceptable reason for certain parties within NCDOT to go to war. The background to why exactly they think this way is as follows:

NCDOT alt by the name of Jimmy 4chan (inspired huh?!), joins RvB.  Along comes one of our theme weekends, and Jimmy breaks the theme, kills a few guys while in something he should not have been, and as a result gets convo’d by the one and only Nyu Trustan. Now Nyu, in his chat, uses the word “mate” quite a lot and Jimmy, being a very special snowflake, takes some offence at it, threatening to get Nyu banned…

[ 2012.07.29 17:52:35 ] Jimmy 4chan > need to speak to somebody that doesnt call me a fag every 20 secs
[ 2012.07.29 17:52:59 ] Nyu Trustan > I havnt been offensive, im giving you your terms
[ 2012.07.29 17:53:23 ] Jimmy 4chan > you have repeated me called me homosexual
[ 2012.07.29 17:53:37 ] Jimmy 4chan > and refered that i am in a relationship with other pilots in this game
[ 2012.07.29 17:53:53 ] Nyu Trustan > mates is not a homosexual reference.
[ 2012.07.29 17:53:57 ] Jimmy 4chan > going to petition you now
[ 2012.07.29 17:54:01 ] Jimmy 4chan > yes it is
[ 2012.07.29 17:54:03 ] Nyu Trustan > yea go for it mate
[ 2012.07.29 17:54:28 ] Jimmy 4chan > thanks for your willingness to accept ccp sanctions
[ 2012.07.29 17:55:09 ] Nyu Trustan > Your going to get your petition looked at for 2 seconds and closed, I wish you well in your time away from RvB, you may return if you choose to pay for your kills
[ 2012.07.29 17:55:13 ] Nyu Trustan > See you round mate

So, Jimmy leaves/gets kicked for being an illiterate baby who cannot comprehend something as basic as our weekend theme’s – then again having read some of the smack NCDOT spam in local when my RvB Ganked roams run across them, I am beginning to think they are all exactly like Jimmy – and very soon after, NCDOT declare war on the glorious forces of Red vs Blue. This is swiftly followed up by Jimmy’s main/another alt, convoing an RvB director type about the joint war declarations (I have trimmed this a little):

Travis Musgrat > How are you doing today
Jiny > fantastic…what can I do for you?
Travis Musgrat > WELL
Travis Musgrat > who o i contact for scheduling a fight
Travis Musgrat > and why do your leaders call players homosexuals
Jiny > well, the rules are clearly posted….so if you failed to read them and then decide to be rude about it…
Travis Musgrat > wasnt being rude he was the one calling homosexual
Jiny > do you mean the word “mate”?
Travis Musgrat > yes
Jiny > that’s a brittish word for friend, associate, comrade….
Jiny > not a gay reference
Travis Musgrat > thats very offensive where i live so my gm bro is going to ban him for a while tomorrow
Jiny > well that’s up to CCP….but something tells me they aren’t going to see it that way
Travis Musgrat > matei have 876 billion isk so i dont have a problem paying for their ships if you give a valid reason for shooting them
Jiny > I thought mate was a derogatory term?
Travis Musgrat > yes it is
Jiny > so…..
Travis Musgrat > same as faggot
Travis Musgrat > cocksucker
Travis Musgrat > etc
Travis Musgrat > you get the point mate
Travis Musgrat > i said i would pay for the ships i killed in my drake
Travis Musgrat > but just not the ones that were killed during the fight that continued after i die
Jiny > well that time has passed, you were rude to my members, then to one of my TLs….now by your own definition you are being rude to me, enjoy your wardec

Following this, the RvB spam crew (me amongst them) starts posting about this on Reddit, Twitter, EVEO (Login to the EVE forums before opening this link), Failheap Challenge & of course the RvB Forums, the next 24 hours become some of the most fun I have had in EVE without un-docking.  During the time before the war itself goes live, we get some allies, the most notable of which being Goonswarm Federation, We Form Voltron & The Devil’s Tattoo.  

And for even more hilarity, a troll corp called Yellow Federation also declared war, after plagiarising the existing RvB recruitment post.


And then it was time for us to fight,  with first blood in The Mate War going to the pilots of the Blue Republic for this kill. Shortly after this kill occurred, we received word that a “large”, BS & BC heavy group of NCDOT pilots was rolling out from Jita:

A couple of hastily set-up RvB reaction fleets were formed and very very loosely coordinated, and then it was time for some action. One of the in gates for Otela became the site of the first major battle of this war.  And well, excluding some purple on purple mishaps – overviews really are not that difficult to set-up mates – it totally went RvB’s way. Yes, it can be said this is down to our number’s but also our rank & file members seem much more willing to prosecute this war than those of the NCDOT (those who can get into High Sec space anyway!) For a sample of what they were thinking after this action, see this pastebin, the highlight of which is this line:

[20:31:47] Poision Kevin > and our epic cor of 6 RR BS’s couldn’t hold reps vs 120 random srubs shooting

One of the member’s of the smaller RvB “veteran” fleet recorded this fraps of that fight:


After a short lull, NCDOT once again left Jita, however this time they had a much larger gang with a very very solid (on paper anyway) core of 30 battleships, and after some neutral scanning of those ships, it turned out NCDOT were fighting like it was 2010 again. Lots of RRBS… Once again, RvB coordinated between it’s fleets and following some back and forth between gates, the larger of our groups jumped in and started spreading tackles, catching pretty much everything the NCDOT had before they could even think of bailing. Once aggro was established, the smaller veteran fleet jumped in, and while our mates dealt with the 12 – yes 12! remote repair Dominix’s, we focused fire on their Megathrons, Armageddons and Typhoons. With your’s truly doing the calling.  Within 10 minutes it was all over. Some of the enemy had escaped but not too many. The field was our’s once again!


More Pastebin logs of the enemy chatter following this engagement can be found here, here & here. The final one is the most amusing as Poision Kevin accuses us of not fighting, obviously he does not understand that herding 180 mostly drunk, certainly bloodthirsty cats around is damn difficult, as after all he is a member of such a “pro” pvp alliance. And when we did fight, things just fell apart for his little group. Amusing is such an understatement, but that’s my view and I shall stick to it.

The rest of the night following this was pretty uneventful. Small skirmishes around the way, Yellow Federation pulled off a smart-bomb BS trick in Jita – hey it happens, its not like an RvB Ganked veteran can be in EVERY RvB fleet warning them about how obvious a smart-bomb BS is to spot…. 

To follow the action, watch the campaigns on the 3 RvB killboards:

Red: NCDOT / Yellow Federation

Blue: NCDOT / Yellow Federation

Purple: NCDOT / Yellow Federation


While I have linked other vidya’s above from the view of the smaller veteran RvB fleet, the following are taken from the view point of members of the larger spai infilitrated RvB fleet (Courtesy of Karim alRashid & Shadowgirl9), however just allow me to say to the members of that fleet, BLOODY GOOD JOB GUYS! You did a bang up job taking down the targets as your FC’ and callers targeted them, without you guys willingness to fight, the first day could have been a wash out for us.  So thanks again!


To our enemies in NCDOT & Yellow Federation all I have to say is keep trying eventually you’ll soundly thrash us, and regardless of how long it takes, keep bringing the good fights and we’ll keep calling you mates in local.